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	<title>Comments on: Vista will never run well on mobile devices?</title>
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		<link>http://www.micropctalk.com/2007/08/28/vista-will-never-run-well-on-mobile-devices/#comment-26913</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: MathProfJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.micropctalk.com/2007/08/28/vista-will-never-run-well-on-mobile-devices/#comment-24650</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Out of my devices, the Q1 is the only one still running XP and that unit hashad dismal performancesince I bought it. I would not have even purchased a UX without the Vista upgrade to enable the tablet tips. I must admit I don't have much experience with Vista preinstalled on a desktop or laptop AND I have been known to threaten to throw my devices out the window. However like Mean Square, I beg to differ. Maybe I will reload XP on a system just to test it out :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of my devices, the Q1 is the only one still running XP and that unit hashad dismal performancesince I bought it. I would not have even purchased a UX without the Vista upgrade to enable the tablet tips. I must admit I don&#8217;t have much experience with Vista preinstalled on a desktop or laptop AND I have been known to threaten to throw my devices out the window. However like Mean Square, I beg to differ. Maybe I will reload XP on a system just to test it out <img src='http://www.micropctalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: MeanSquare</title>
		<link>http://www.micropctalk.com/2007/08/28/vista-will-never-run-well-on-mobile-devices/#comment-24538</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A few additional thoughts:

I think your level of expectations do figure into the experience somewhat.  While I object to the categorical statement that Vista on a UMPC is unstable and stalls out constantly, I can certainly see that even the UX isn't in competition with the powerhouses used by hardcore gamers.  To me it's a matter of &quot;appropriate technology.&quot;  The UX has the power needed to run Vista and the applications I need on a daily basis.  It's even powerful enough to impress me with what it's capable of doing.

The other thing which I mentioned, but I think deserves another mention is that my UMPC has some cutting-edge technology.  Handtops are, by necessity at the cutting edge of technology.  Their size makes it necessary to implement technologies that are unnecessary on machines that can be prodigal with power and heat.  This is why SSDs showed up in UMPCs first.  And it's that sort of thing that will cause JK to eat his words before too long.

If I had written JK's statement, I might amend it to say &quot;Vista will never run well on UMPCs unless you've got one with current technology&quot; ;)
The UMPCs that comprise the mid-to-low end of the market just don't have the chops to run Vista (and, as some have noted, even need to be optimized for XP).

New tech is almost always more expensive.  Many people who get into UMPCs at the &quot;entry level&quot; will likely have experiences closer to what JK describes because their UMPCs are still using technology that's at least several years old.  One of the things that allowed laptops to enter the mainstream is that they reached a technology point where the experience on entry level systems was actually tolerable.  I don't think we're there yet with UMPCs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few additional thoughts:</p>
<p>I think your level of expectations do figure into the experience somewhat.  While I object to the categorical statement that Vista on a UMPC is unstable and stalls out constantly, I can certainly see that even the UX isn&#8217;t in competition with the powerhouses used by hardcore gamers.  To me it&#8217;s a matter of &#8220;appropriate technology.&#8221;  The UX has the power needed to run Vista and the applications I need on a daily basis.  It&#8217;s even powerful enough to impress me with what it&#8217;s capable of doing.</p>
<p>The other thing which I mentioned, but I think deserves another mention is that my UMPC has some cutting-edge technology.  Handtops are, by necessity at the cutting edge of technology.  Their size makes it necessary to implement technologies that are unnecessary on machines that can be prodigal with power and heat.  This is why SSDs showed up in UMPCs first.  And it&#8217;s that sort of thing that will cause JK to eat his words before too long.</p>
<p>If I had written JK&#8217;s statement, I might amend it to say &#8220;Vista will never run well on UMPCs unless you&#8217;ve got one with current technology&#8221; <img src='http://www.micropctalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The UMPCs that comprise the mid-to-low end of the market just don&#8217;t have the chops to run Vista (and, as some have noted, even need to be optimized for XP).</p>
<p>New tech is almost always more expensive.  Many people who get into UMPCs at the &#8220;entry level&#8221; will likely have experiences closer to what JK describes because their UMPCs are still using technology that&#8217;s at least several years old.  One of the things that allowed laptops to enter the mainstream is that they reached a technology point where the experience on entry level systems was actually tolerable.  I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re there yet with UMPCs.
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		<title>by: MeanSquare</title>
		<link>http://www.micropctalk.com/2007/08/28/vista-will-never-run-well-on-mobile-devices/#comment-24456</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The odd thing is that my original SSD UX (a UX91SSD which was damaged in an accident) was running XP.  I did the upgrade to Vista myself and I didn't notice any significant slow-down when I did that.  In other words, XP on an SSD machine and Vista on the same SSD machine performed about as well.  One thing I will note is that I did a clean install of Vista and then added the UX-specific drivers.  Thats a big difference from what you get off the shelf with the UX390N.  Sony loads down the unit with a lot of junk-ware, much of which seems as though it were designed to cripple performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The odd thing is that my original SSD UX (a UX91SSD which was damaged in an accident) was running XP.  I did the upgrade to Vista myself and I didn&#8217;t notice any significant slow-down when I did that.  In other words, XP on an SSD machine and Vista on the same SSD machine performed about as well.  One thing I will note is that I did a clean install of Vista and then added the UX-specific drivers.  Thats a big difference from what you get off the shelf with the UX390N.  Sony loads down the unit with a lot of junk-ware, much of which seems as though it were designed to cripple performance.
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		<title>by: follick</title>
		<link>http://www.micropctalk.com/2007/08/28/vista-will-never-run-well-on-mobile-devices/#comment-24454</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How is Vista performance on the UX-380 or UX-280 compared to XP? After all, the only real difference between the 390 and the 380 is the disk. So if the 380 had problems that would certainly point to the hard drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Vista performance on the UX-380 or UX-280 compared to XP? After all, the only real difference between the 390 and the 380 is the disk. So if the 380 had problems that would certainly point to the hard drive.
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		<title>by: Benz145</title>
		<link>http://www.micropctalk.com/2007/08/28/vista-will-never-run-well-on-mobile-devices/#comment-24446</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good point, its probably the slow HDD speeds of UMPC, I think all 1.8&quot; drives are 4200 RPM. Its strange it seems like most other UMPC sites have never used the UX. I'm not quite sure why, but maybe using a more powerful device would change their minds about vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, its probably the slow HDD speeds of UMPC, I think all 1.8&#8243; drives are 4200 RPM. Its strange it seems like most other UMPC sites have never used the UX. I&#8217;m not quite sure why, but maybe using a more powerful device would change their minds about vista.
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