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Postby ArchiMark » Tue Oct 18, 2011 18:46

bigs wrote:check if the runcore model you have uses the jmicron chipset. If it is, the firmware update will not improve the performance substantially.


Finally, got word from vendor that Runcore has Indilinx 110M02 controller. Is that good?

Waiting to hear back if there's any firmware updates....
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Postby bigs » Tue Oct 18, 2011 19:04

ArchiMark wrote:Finally, got word from vendor that Runcore has Indilinx 110M02 controller. Is that good?

Waiting to hear back if there's any firmware updates....


yes indilinx is a much better controller than jmicron. Be aware that unless you are using slc based ssd drives, a feature known as "trim" is required to get optimal write performance from mlc ssd. Not all ssd has trim either check this. Another type of auto trimming is from photofast v4 which has the "eastwho" controller which not only has 64mb cache to improve write speeds, but also something known as "garbage collection" which works real well for OS like xp which does not support trim.

For those who cannot afford the hefty price tag of photofast v4, there are quite a number of cheaper brands which will have similar performance and technology as long as it sports"garbage collection" or similar, and has the "eastwho" controller.

For more info about garbage colection, controllers, etc check out previous threads in the forum where it has been discussed in detail.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard
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Postby ArchiMark » Tue Oct 18, 2011 19:11

bigs wrote:yes indilinx is a much better controller than jmicron. Be aware that unless you are using slc based ssd drives, a feature known as "trim" is required to get optimal write performance from mlc ssd. Not all ssd has trim either check this. Another type of auto trimming is from photofast v4 which has the "eastwho" controller which not only has 64mb cache to improve write speeds, but also something known as "garbage collection" which works real well for OS like xp which does not support trim.


Thanks for the input, bigs!....

This Runcore model has 'trim'....


For those who cannot afford the hefty price tag of photofast v4, there are quite a number of cheaper brands which will have similar performance and technology as long as it sports"garbage collection" or similar, and has the "eastwho" controller.


That's very good to know...

For more info about garbage colection, controllers, etc check out previous threads in the forum where it has been discussed in detail.


OK, will do.....thanks....
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Postby ceehoppy1st » Sun Nov 13, 2011 05:02

Here is me tweaking my C2D UX the same way darkerx did (see post #119 of this thread), so I got a similar Mark. U7700 oc'ed to 1.45GHz, XP sp3, GMAbooster, & mtron ssd set to udma6.

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Postby bigs » Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:42

I get 41288 for my hdd this from a Samsung SLC 64Gb drive. Specification wise, both the SAmsung and Mtron share the same SLC NAND for storage, but I think the Mtron is meant to have a better controller, ie possibly faster read and write speeds.

How do you find the battery life o'clocking it to 1.45Ghz? When mobile I keep my UX clocked to maximum freq 1.06Ghz, so I can use a very lean fan profile. It's so lean, that the fan is almost inaudible. I notice not only does different throttle CPU allow for different power consumption, but also the fan speeds can vary by up to 1watt difference depending on fan speed.

With good power optimizations, I can get a good 2 hours easily using the standard batter on my c2d UX with samsung SSD.

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micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby ceehoppy1st » Sun Nov 13, 2011 17:24

We already know that using Crystalmark on Windows vs Ubuntu is like comparing apples to....kiwi fruit! ;)
The mtron is capable of ATA133 (udma6). Here's the mtron connected to my desktop with a zif-ide adapter.
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The Samsung can do ATA66 (udma4), so it hits lower seq. speeds, but random speeds are similar to mtron when it's in the UX.
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Mtron uses more power than Samsung, at least as much as hdd. Right now I'm tweaking the C2D for max performance, so I don't care about power use as it's stationary. (ie no power managment, everything else set to max, minimum software, etc) Side benefit is fast (for XP) 20 sec boot times & 6sec shutdown. I always surprises me how slow a system gets after awhile with more & more apps, AV software, updates, etc.
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Postby bigs » Sun Nov 13, 2011 18:04

been doing some reading about photofast v4, think ti does udma5. That theoretically would mean the mtron would be faster than that too?

when i used my photofast v4 32gb boot time in ubuntu was like 10 seconds, now with the samsung, it more like 15 seconds. Write speeds is where my photofast would choke though with the old samsung writing files more than double the speed of photofast v4.

also based on forum notebook reviews the mtron power use is 0.9w idle and 2.0watt active.
photofast v4 is 0.1w idle and 1.4w active
traditional toshiba zif hard drive 0.4w and 1.1w respectively.

based on this mtron actually would use more power than a conventional hard drive with the exception it would get the task done quicker, hence more time spent in idle state.

curious though wshat temps are you getting running your ux at the overclocked speed?
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby ceehoppy1st » Sun Nov 13, 2011 23:19

Depends on the load. From a cold boot I can overclock & run CrystalMark (just ALU &FPU) 4-5 times back to back before it hits 68C & throttles down cpu. After a couple min at idle temps are back down to 48-50C. For most stuff I do temps stay in the 50s.
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Postby bigs » Mon Nov 14, 2011 03:08

wow, thats pretty cool, temperature wise. mine runs at similar temps with minimal load, and no overlocking.

BTW with fan over ride software, you can run your UX full throttle stock clocked 1.33Ghz with 20 degree temp room continuously, and the temps get up to maximum of 60 degrees C.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby ceehoppy1st » Wed Feb 01, 2012 19:02

I took my previous best setup from post 184 above & added a sata-raid setup like Braindead has & got this:
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I keep myself amused by seeing how far I can push my UX. ;) I'll post reviews on the Commell sata controller when I have a chance.
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