Android on the UX?

Talk about installing other operating systems on the micro PC.
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Postby blaster » Mon May 30, 2011 23:11

the only way to get it into the ux is to use a ziff to sata converter like the one in the p (there goes anther watt) and even if we get that far we are going to have to cut out alot of the system to fit in the rest. this is a 2.5" hdd size board your trying to fit into a 1.8" hhd slot. on the up side we can remove some of the carbon fiber and the cf slot. oh wait that might not be in the way.

we need to talk to them about a 1.8" ziff vertion.


where does windows 7 get stored?
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Postby bigs » Mon May 30, 2011 23:49

Darn Blaster, I misread the article! You are right, it looks like it does replace your Hard drive, and indeed one can install a small SSD of some sort onto the mini PCI-e slot on the ARM mainboard. Sounds like a lost cause now, since like you said it has a SATA connector, and the use of a SATa-PATA bridge will not only use an additional WATT but would slow down the actual Android OS communication. Pity though they could not put android actually on a mini PCI-E card, which I cannot see why not but I suspect mineralization technology may not be up for it quite yet. Since Cryatal HD mini PCI is essentially just a CPU dedicated to video decoding, why not have a CPU that is ARM which could be used for another OS overlay like android or additional CPU power for video decoding.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard
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Postby bigs » Mon May 30, 2011 23:50

Just on the subject of watts, I have managed to undervolt my UX on max throttle so that is alot less watts used plus alot less heat to contend with.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby blaster » Tue May 31, 2011 00:22

but your cpu will become unstable.

well yes soon a pcie version should be possible and maby it can even dubble as a decoder.

this board had sata and so does pcie. the board has alot of extra stuff that is in no way needed if you are designing it for a consumer grad pcie upgrade card with the only additional thing being a micro sd card.hum would you even need that. i know android need internal storage then expanded storage but i think you can have android booting off an sdcard and use that for all its storage.

im wondering if it was all pci based would it be able to use the internal hdd and internal wifi?

i am wondering why on earth this card has its own wifi. its its under $200 im tempted to put it in my acer aspire one (the only comparable contender) but i need to get my core 2 mod done first. sigh so expensive when your a student. (any donations lol i have the prosesor already)

come on guys lets starting another thread asking for a pcie version then we will show it to the makers
UX37GN - taking out the pcie wifi. adding internal usb hib with wifi and adding a broadcom crustal hd

TZ17 - u7600 48gb sony slc ssd 2gb ram. TZ16 u7500 80gb hdd 2gb ram

acer aspire one a150. 1.6ghz 1.5gb ram. 6cell battery :D

EEE PC 900. 9" 900mhz 2gb ram. i have been messing around with windows 7 and 8 hehe

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Postby bigs » Tue May 31, 2011 03:28

true blaster, that is why i reduce voltage by increments, on each core independently. and run tests for stability. Trust me, you will need to undervolt if you even want a chance of using your future core2duo and australian temps at anything more than 800Mhz!.

As for the arm cpu, I am sure it will be possible for them to make a mini pci-e version for the arm cpu, since the crystal HD is basically a dedicated cpu for video decoding. But, I dont see this happening anytime soon, due to mineralization noto such a small pcb, plus for the unit to be attractive, it would have to share the little space on the mini-pci-e card with some sort of wireless adapter.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby UXername » Tue May 31, 2011 04:01

im wondering if it was all pci based would it be able to use the internal hdd and internal wifi?


i think it has no internal hdd, but it can have one (via the mini-PCIe socket). but i think there's a small storage in there(internal storage for android), and that's not hdd.

i am wondering why on earth this card has its own wifi.


that's for android. because not all laptops have the same wifi, they can't hack drivers for all of them!

..with the only additional thing being a micro sd card.hum would you even need that.


the second sd slot can be used in both android and pc mode :D. 32g uSD is still an added storage, plus you can just drag and drop files to transfer from pc to android, and vice versa(but the former looks like will be more of use than the latter)

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Postby bigs » Tue May 31, 2011 05:07

UXername, so The Windows 7 partition has to run from storage from the minipci slow on the Android SATA mainboard?
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby UXername » Tue May 31, 2011 09:29

yes, but i don't think partition is the correct term for that, as partition means the "division" of a disk.

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Postby bigs » Tue May 31, 2011 09:54

hmm, may not be a bad idea actually partitioning the storage, heehe
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby UXername » Tue May 31, 2011 16:14

1.8" version of this.., plus this!!


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