Sony Vaio X505 going more eXtreme...

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bigs
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Postby bigs » Fri Oct 21, 2011 05:34

good improvement here, smaler die makes for lower heat output which should equate to lower power consumption.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard
OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!
sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate
light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby SorenStirner » Fri Oct 21, 2011 14:03

@anh: yes the free to use space is really hard to find but my first goal was to get rid of the PCMCIA WiFi module. What I did is strip out a tiny USB HUB 2.0 and put it inside the PCMCIA slot. I took the USB line directly from one of the two ports soldering the 4 wires directly to the hub. What I have now from the 4 ports hub are: a WiFi draft N (stripped WiFi USB key), Bluetooth (stripped tiny BT USB key), internal USB port wich now hosts a mouse RF receiver for my Trust Xpert-Touch mouse but not soldered and the 4th USB port sneake peaks outside the PCMCIA slot and it's free to use for external devices. Now I'm testing the battery consumption, I'm looking forward to put a switch on the 5v pin for the WiFi key.
Please anh PM me asap, since I already found a working R200 mainboard with the Dothan on it :)

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Postby bigs » Fri Oct 21, 2011 15:30

wow, SorenStirner. Much better utilization of spcae! Would like to see the implementation of this usb 5v switch. the r200 dothan cpu is a good choice for you x505. I like how you can force feed air into the r200, and then fully load up the cpu 100% and the internal fan never needs to turn on. Also for just semi idle surfing, the internal fan never needs to run, not like the ux with yohah, that requires fan after cpu gets a little warm.

Still using my r200 today ;) just a quick comparison, appart from the x505 looking better, and having a better lcd than the r200, the r200 is a superior stock speced machine, and maximum thickness when closed 18mm is actually less than than the x505 at its thickest point(aka battery at back.) R200 has both bluetooth 2.0, wifi g all built in from stock and has descent battery life 2.5 hours with internal battery and about 5 hours with extended battery bolted on.
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby anh » Fri Oct 21, 2011 17:26

X505 had design fanless which is adaptable for 7W TDP CPU.
With new CPU at 5.5W TDP, it is better for heat dissipating.
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Postby bigs » Sat Oct 22, 2011 01:06

like the idea of fanles! can make it totally solid state this way, impressive chasis heat sinking!
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby Eingang » Thu Dec 22, 2011 09:59

- How do you replace the hdd with a SSD ? Is there anything to look for specifically ? Any weak / sensible point ? Got a used X505 and want to get rid of the noisy / slow hdd asap.

- Is anyone here able to explain that:
When I tried to install Windows, the device simply shut down from itself somehwere around the point where you have to select the partition etc..... it always started with the hard drive coming down. Sometimes it happend seconds earlies, sometimes seconds later. I tried with burned and original install CD/DVD, through Firewire and PCMCIA, XP and W7, with and without battery, plugged and not plugged. In the end it worked unplugged after the ....10th try ?

Once that "sensible" point was taken, installation worked flawlessly and now XP is running like a charm. What could be the reason for that problem ? Could it be, the hdd shuts itself off after 1 or 2 minutes for energy saving reasons ? Or might that be some serious hardware failure ? Maybe it´s the hard drive ?

Whatever, I am running that baby for hours and it´s fine, simply fine. Really strange....

- What is the price for ANHs CPU upgrade ? Well.... so much work and money for a ~ 18,2% + CPU... a bit cooler and less power consumption... is it really worth it ?

- The device comes with a very sensible type of varnish. I do worry a bit since there are three tiny spots in it, yet. Does anyone know a company where notebooks can be varnished ? Damaged surfaces are a big problem for all older notebooks and it would be so great if there would be anyone able to refresh the paintwork professionally for and affordable price.

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Postby bigs » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:45

that is very strange that you found it that hard to install the OS onto the hard drive. An SSD will definitely benefit your x505, as not only does it make it more shock proof being solid state, but also, naturally quicker and with the right SSD will use even less power, and result in even more battery life.

I think its an amazing being able to upgrade from banias to dothan CPU. I never knew these CPUs had compatible sockets, and chipsets. The upgrade will not only gain CPU speed, but also efficiency, double the cache and smaller die is major improvements! But in saying this my R200 with dothan 1.33Ghz CPU pales when compared to a stock UX which has core solo 1.2Ghz CPU, and further falls behind massively compared to my core2duo 1.33Ghz UX by Anh,
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby danong » Tue Sep 10, 2013 00:32

Hi, I'm new and this is my 1st post.

I'm lead here by google/yahoo after doing a search on 'x505 ssd'. I'm actually in the process of upgrading(DIY) the stock 20gb hdd to a 64gb ssd.

Thanks to this thread and the posts/information contributed by fem, now I know the processor can be upgraded to 1.3Ghz (mine is 1Ghz).

I'm not a US citizen nor live in US so sending my x505 to anh is no no at this point of time. So my question is: Is the cpu soldered onto the motherboard or is it just an easy snap on? I want to DIY the processor upgrade so if the CPU is soldered then I have to abandon that plan.

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Postby bigs » Thu Sep 12, 2013 00:07

The x505, is a very slim ultra book, so I suspect in order to keep the size small, the CPU will be BGA attached to the mainbaord. It is not user removable. Also the upgrade from 1.0Ghz to 1.3Ghz is not that significant, unless you really love your x505, it would probably be better to leave it as stock but with a 64Gb SSD.

I suspect you will need to get a mini IDE to ZIF adapter if you purchase a ZIF PATA SSD. These SSDs are far more common than the older IDE pin ones that will fit the x505
micropc hardware: sony ux17gp with 390N mainboard with Anh u7700 upgrade core2duo 1.33ghz 1024mb (now upgraded to 64gb SLC SSD Samsung), Intel 4965 agn wireless, upgrade addon 3rd mini aerial, UX37GBN blue housing incorporating improved keyboard

OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 lucid & now 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

sony 380N stock 1.33ghz, 1gb ram, and 40gb rotational drive OS: windows ultimate

light slim notebook: toshiba r200 1.3ghz 1.2gb ram 64gb photofast v1 ssd oS: linux ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn

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Postby danong » Thu Sep 12, 2013 07:34

Bigs, you are right. The processor is soldered to the mb, this info is from anh himself.

To me, a 33% speed increase is actually quite a lot. If its an easy slot in/out I can easily diy but 1ghz is fine with me, the main bottleneck is the stock hdd anyway.


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